I think it's a Cyrillic letter 'A' that slipped through the cracks during translation. It looks the same as a Roman 'A' but has a different ASCII code, so it ends up being an unknown character in the game's font. It is an unfortunate mistake, I know
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 15 Jan 2010, 03:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Hello, this is my first post here, but I've been following this forum for quite some time now. Now, I've played through the game and loved it, but there was always this little disturbing issue: in the "sister's information page" Aya's name appears to me as "?ya". It's really no big deal, but I'd love to know what's going on with that. Thanks in advance. PS: If anyone can help me take a SS I'd be happy to post it back, I just couldn't find a way yet. |
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| Author: | fnord3125 [ 15 Jan 2010, 05:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
I've been wondering about this for awhile too. Was wondering if it was a weird typo or intentional. |
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| Author: | hydra9 [ 15 Jan 2010, 18:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
I think it's a Cyrillic letter 'A' that slipped through the cracks during translation. It looks the same as a Roman 'A' but has a different ASCII code, so it ends up being an unknown character in the game's font. It is an unfortunate mistake, I know
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 15 Jan 2010, 19:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
My money was actually on something along the same lines. Any known way around it? Just find/replace that character in some files could do it? or are we talking source code? Thanks in advance. |
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| Author: | hydra9 [ 15 Jan 2010, 19:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
The LxR (or someone else at IPL) would have to re-compile the localization files. |
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 15 Jan 2010, 19:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
I see... anything I can help with? be really annoying to them, perhaps? 
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| Author: | The LxR [ 15 Jan 2010, 20:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
No. Don't. I tend to delay stuff when I'm annoyed, rather than do. 
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| Author: | dustdevil [ 15 Jan 2010, 22:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
It's not an issue, anyway, though I was wondering the same. Struck me as quite mysterious. =p |
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 16 Jan 2010, 03:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Fair enough, I shall annoy you not (about the interrogation sign thing). Yell if I can be of any assistance. |
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| Author: | sdgfsdgsgswg [ 20 Jan 2010, 14:34 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name | ||
And here's a fix
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| Author: | hydra9 [ 20 Jan 2010, 14:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Was it in a plain text file or did you have to unpack this? Many thanks, anyway! |
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 20 Jan 2010, 19:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Thanks a bunch! Hmmm.... this is interesting, it looks like there are far more strings to fiddle around with
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| Author: | hydra9 [ 20 Jan 2010, 19:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Quote: Hmmm.... this is interesting, it looks like there are far more strings to fiddle around with Don't read too much or you'll spoil things for yourself! (if you haven't finished the game, that is)
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 20 Jan 2010, 21:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Thanks for the heads up, but indeed I did finish the game  Thank you all! |
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| Author: | fnord3125 [ 20 Jan 2010, 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
On a similar topic, I noticed that a '?' shows up anytime someone says the word 'Naïve'. That is, it always appears as 'na?ve'. I would assume this is due to the same sort of issue. |
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 20 Jan 2010, 22:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
I'm sorry if this sounds stupid but... do you mean "in game"? or "in forum"? |
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| Author: | fnord3125 [ 20 Jan 2010, 23:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Quote: I'm sorry if this sounds stupid but... do you mean "in game"? or "in forum"? Who are you talking to?
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 21 Jan 2010, 00:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Quote: Quote: I'm sorry if this sounds stupid but... do you mean "in game"? or "in forum"? Who are you talking to?
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| Author: | fnord3125 [ 21 Jan 2010, 00:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm sorry if this sounds stupid but... do you mean "in game"? or "in forum"? Who are you talking to? And then it cropped up in someone else's subtitles too, Ire, I think. I'm guessing it's a similar issue with ASCII codes or something.
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 21 Jan 2010, 02:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
I'll have to pay more attention to those dialogues Any chances of solving these the same way Aya's name was? |
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| Author: | sdgfsdgsgswg [ 21 Jan 2010, 06:29 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name | ||
Echo seems to be the only one who says naïve. Replaced it with naive
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| Author: | fnord3125 [ 21 Jan 2010, 06:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Quote: Echo seems to be the only one who says naïve. Replaced it with naive No... someone else also said it. I'll see if I can find it in my journal.Found it. Ire. She says: "Na?ve Brothers guard the Sisters and their Realms. They don't even understand how they're all connected." I haven't finished the game, but those are the two occurrences of it I've seen so far. |
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| Author: | sdgfsdgsgswg [ 21 Jan 2010, 08:31 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name | ||
Yeah, forgot to search Naïve with upper-case N
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| Author: | Ausonius [ 21 Jan 2010, 12:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
Thanks a bunch sdgfsdgsgswg! So was this some sort of codepoint thing? If I just search through the files in the "patch" for any codepoint outside the standard ANSI range and replace by the ANSI equivalent I could get all of these? (Sorry if the question is idiotic, I just need to get some sleep) Thanks again! |
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| Author: | ElTipejoLoco [ 27 Jan 2013, 06:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interrogation sign in Aya's name |
It seems to be an issue with the font used with the game. The font lacks a proper character for the letters, and thus displays ?. Many translated games tend to have this occur unless the fonts or the system used to display them were modified and updated for he localization. This adds on development time, though, so sometimes it's skipped or circumvented through renaming or avoidance of words that are written with special characters. I can tell you that Properties.vsf's strings properly contains the "ï"s in every instance of the word "naïve", at least. I've no idea about Aya's name, though. All instances of her name in the file just use a regular A. She's interestingly missing from a list of the Sisters' names, though that includes an "Undefined Girl." I just kind of assumed it might've been an Á, Ä, or À. Maybe even an Ã? No idea. Sorry for reviving such an old topic, I just felt like adding a bit to it. |
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